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	<title>Comments on: eWeek tests OpenSource stacks and .NET</title>
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		<title>By: ClashTheBunny</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/07/17/eweek-tests-opensource-stacks-and-net/comment-page-1/#comment-80931</link>
		<dc:creator>ClashTheBunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is obvious when you look at the last slide.  It has a screenshot of the software that they used and it was a windows program evaluating localhost.  Do you think the loopback would give better performance than physical ethernet?

When I ping localhost vs the default gateway, I get a ping time of 10 times better.  Just that alone would account for some of the 10 fold problems with windows vs Linux for the rapid fire tests.

As for the download time, when did it take you to download ANY web page 120 seconds?  2 minutes on a web page?  That sounds like a timeout from misconfiguration, not any Linux server I&#039;ve ever used.  Maybe they set things up to grab the wrong script or talk to the wrong database (maybe not a local database, but one on the windows box)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is obvious when you look at the last slide.  It has a screenshot of the software that they used and it was a windows program evaluating localhost.  Do you think the loopback would give better performance than physical ethernet?</p>
<p>When I ping localhost vs the default gateway, I get a ping time of 10 times better.  Just that alone would account for some of the 10 fold problems with windows vs Linux for the rapid fire tests.</p>
<p>As for the download time, when did it take you to download ANY web page 120 seconds?  2 minutes on a web page?  That sounds like a timeout from misconfiguration, not any Linux server I&#8217;ve ever used.  Maybe they set things up to grab the wrong script or talk to the wrong database (maybe not a local database, but one on the windows box)?</p>
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		<title>By: Pythian Group Blog &#187; Log Buffer #2: a Carnival of the Vanities for DBAs</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/07/17/eweek-tests-opensource-stacks-and-net/comment-page-1/#comment-76122</link>
		<dc:creator>Pythian Group Blog &#187; Log Buffer #2: a Carnival of the Vanities for DBAs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] comparing the Open Source and .Net dynamic web stacks. Peter Zaitsev of the MySQL Performance Blog finds fault with eWeek&#8217;s methodology, and even with what they thought they were testing. He asks why the results of their comparison of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] comparing the Open Source and .Net dynamic web stacks. Peter Zaitsev of the MySQL Performance Blog finds fault with eWeek&#8217;s methodology, and even with what they thought they were testing. He asks why the results of their comparison of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sviluppatori</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/07/17/eweek-tests-opensource-stacks-and-net/comment-page-1/#comment-2051</link>
		<dc:creator>Sviluppatori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;WAMP vs LAMP...&lt;/strong&gt;

Uno studio di eWEEK confronta diversi stack per l&#039;implementazione di applicazioni web, confrontando Windows con Linux. Da quanto viene pubblicato, python sotto windows &#232; enormemente pi&#249; performante di php sotto linux; tuttavia mysqlperfo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>WAMP vs LAMP&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Uno studio di eWEEK confronta diversi stack per l&#8217;implementazione di applicazioni web, confrontando Windows con Linux. Da quanto viene pubblicato, python sotto windows &egrave; enormemente pi&ugrave; performante di php sotto linux; tuttavia mysqlperfo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/07/17/eweek-tests-opensource-stacks-and-net/comment-page-1/#comment-1135</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 21:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexey, 

Honestly I do not buy it :)  Tuning of LAMP stack on Windows and Linux is at 95% same - installing PHP accelerator, using proper modules, configuring apache, MySQL Server configuration etc.   Going deeper to change kernel options normally gives just few percent difference - OS vendors try to have reasonable defaults.   Of course if some &quot;WAMP in the box&quot; which is reasonably optimized was used on Windows while stock Apache+MySQL were used on Linux it could explain the difference.

Speaking about threads... I would not expect it to be that different.  MySQL also uses threads very heavily but performance is not that much different. 

Well. There is nothing to argue here. We&#039;re just poking finger in the sky until there is some kind of disclosure done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexey, </p>
<p>Honestly I do not buy it <img src='http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Tuning of LAMP stack on Windows and Linux is at 95% same &#8211; installing PHP accelerator, using proper modules, configuring apache, MySQL Server configuration etc.   Going deeper to change kernel options normally gives just few percent difference &#8211; OS vendors try to have reasonable defaults.   Of course if some &#8220;WAMP in the box&#8221; which is reasonably optimized was used on Windows while stock Apache+MySQL were used on Linux it could explain the difference.</p>
<p>Speaking about threads&#8230; I would not expect it to be that different.  MySQL also uses threads very heavily but performance is not that much different. </p>
<p>Well. There is nothing to argue here. We&#8217;re just poking finger in the sky until there is some kind of disclosure done.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexey</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/07/17/eweek-tests-opensource-stacks-and-net/comment-page-1/#comment-1119</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 13:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. &quot;why WAMP would perform 6 times better than LAMP ?&quot;
LAMP needs expert tuning to give good performance.

2. &quot;Why Python would be faster than PHP on Windows but slower on Linux ?&quot;
Python relies heavily on OS thread performance, and on Windows it&#039;s better than on Linux.

Overall, you&#039;re right, this benchmark does suck bigtime. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. &#8220;why WAMP would perform 6 times better than LAMP ?&#8221;<br />
LAMP needs expert tuning to give good performance.</p>
<p>2. &#8220;Why Python would be faster than PHP on Windows but slower on Linux ?&#8221;<br />
Python relies heavily on OS thread performance, and on Windows it&#8217;s better than on Linux.</p>
<p>Overall, you&#8217;re right, this benchmark does suck bigtime. <img src='http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 06:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pabloj,

Yes. Database comparison was pretty good, and not because MySQL sored top marks in it :).  If you would look at list of my concerns they were all pretty much targeted in that benchmark.  It was real application which was same for all database vendors which counts as benchmark specs.  It was published, so were hardware configuration and database server settings.     If I&#039;m not mistaken IBM even repeated the runs with  new DB2 versions and showed they are not that bad later on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pabloj,</p>
<p>Yes. Database comparison was pretty good, and not because MySQL sored top marks in it <img src='http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  If you would look at list of my concerns they were all pretty much targeted in that benchmark.  It was real application which was same for all database vendors which counts as benchmark specs.  It was published, so were hardware configuration and database server settings.     If I&#8217;m not mistaken IBM even repeated the runs with  new DB2 versions and showed they are not that bad later on.</p>
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		<title>By: pabloj</title>
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		<dc:creator>pabloj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, they once posted a nice database shootout, this one seems just a non-comparable bunch of data and fud</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they once posted a nice database shootout, this one seems just a non-comparable bunch of data and fud</p>
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