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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/08/23/watch-out-for-marketing-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-5293</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ayhan,

please do not place your comments to more than one blog post. 
As I mentioned   you should really try to benchmark on your workload rather than use existing benchmarks which might not be relevant for your application.

Regarding framework to setup benchmarks - perhaps Quest Benchmark Factory could do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayhan,</p>
<p>please do not place your comments to more than one blog post.<br />
As I mentioned   you should really try to benchmark on your workload rather than use existing benchmarks which might not be relevant for your application.</p>
<p>Regarding framework to setup benchmarks &#8211; perhaps Quest Benchmark Factory could do</p>
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		<title>By: AYHAN</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/08/23/watch-out-for-marketing-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-5290</link>
		<dc:creator>AYHAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi i wanted to ask a question abaout benchmarks 
can anybody advise me a benchmark software that we can use to 
see the performance off oracle and mysql</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi i wanted to ask a question abaout benchmarks<br />
can anybody advise me a benchmark software that we can use to<br />
see the performance off oracle and mysql</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/08/23/watch-out-for-marketing-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1989</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Frank,

Speaking about MySQL 4 -&gt; 5 upgrade there are variants. 

1) If you application was not well optimized for MySQL 4 it may work much faster on MySQL 5 - for  example if you used OR on different columns which not works well with index merge.

2) You may get benefit from MySQL optimizations - like index merge may improve performance, some changes making group by more efficient, improved join optimizer and all these little things - it is close to one but more subtle.
Also you could get improvement using Innodb tables due to Compact storage format, especially if your database is close to memory size - in this case saving 10-20% space is very important.

3) The way to benefit from MySQL 5.0 is to use its features but of course it should make sense for your application - for example as you could see in benchmarks DBT2 benchmarks can be made 30% faster with 5.0... but if you use Stored procedures.  Also you can use triggers instead of separate updates and these kind of things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Frank,</p>
<p>Speaking about MySQL 4 -> 5 upgrade there are variants. </p>
<p>1) If you application was not well optimized for MySQL 4 it may work much faster on MySQL 5 &#8211; for  example if you used OR on different columns which not works well with index merge.</p>
<p>2) You may get benefit from MySQL optimizations &#8211; like index merge may improve performance, some changes making group by more efficient, improved join optimizer and all these little things &#8211; it is close to one but more subtle.<br />
Also you could get improvement using Innodb tables due to Compact storage format, especially if your database is close to memory size &#8211; in this case saving 10-20% space is very important.</p>
<p>3) The way to benefit from MySQL 5.0 is to use its features but of course it should make sense for your application &#8211; for example as you could see in benchmarks DBT2 benchmarks can be made 30% faster with 5.0&#8230; but if you use Stored procedures.  Also you can use triggers instead of separate updates and these kind of things.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Mash</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/08/23/watch-out-for-marketing-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1988</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Mash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, Interesting findings indeed. I have to say if all the marketing folks across all industries started giving the flip side of the coin, the world will be a totally different place.

Would love to hear your thoughts on how after upgrading to MySQL 5, an application can achieve the same performance as when it was on MySQL 4 since I&#039;ve been reading that upgrading (without making significant changes) can reduce performance.

Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, Interesting findings indeed. I have to say if all the marketing folks across all industries started giving the flip side of the coin, the world will be a totally different place.</p>
<p>Would love to hear your thoughts on how after upgrading to MySQL 5, an application can achieve the same performance as when it was on MySQL 4 since I&#8217;ve been reading that upgrading (without making significant changes) can reduce performance.</p>
<p>Frank</p>
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		<title>By: IT Insights Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/08/23/watch-out-for-marketing-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1974</link>
		<dc:creator>IT Insights Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Even open source is subject to code bloat...&lt;/strong&gt;

There is a common perception that open source code is leaner and meaner by nature than closed source. For example, compare Oracle and MySQL. No one can doubt that Oracle&#039;s database offers more bells and whistles, which require a lot......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Even open source is subject to code bloat&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>There is a common perception that open source code is leaner and meaner by nature than closed source. For example, compare Oracle and MySQL. No one can doubt that Oracle&#8217;s database offers more bells and whistles, which require a lot&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/08/23/watch-out-for-marketing-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1972</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slown = slowed down
Thanks for correction.  This is far from only mistaken in this post I guess. 
And english is far from my native language :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slown = slowed down<br />
Thanks for correction.  This is far from only mistaken in this post I guess.<br />
And english is far from my native language <img src='http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: steve michel</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Slown?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Slown?&#8221;</p>
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