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		<title>By: Rubén Ortiz &#187; MySQL - Variables básicas a configurar</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2007/01/19/tmp_table_size-and-max_heap_table_size/comment-page-1/#comment-459963</link>
		<dc:creator>Rubén Ortiz &#187; MySQL - Variables básicas a configurar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rubén Ortiz</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2007/01/19/tmp_table_size-and-max_heap_table_size/comment-page-1/#comment-459929</link>
		<dc:creator>Rubén Ortiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, excuse me for ask before find it better. I read this on MySQL,

&quot;ChangeSet@stripped, 2007-01-03 14:45:26+03:00, ted@stripped +7 -0
BUG #4291: max_heap_table_size affects creation of disk-based temporary table
 
fix: the new system variable memory_tmp_table_size is introduced; it stands now for the exact purpose the Manual says tmp_table_size used to do. 
  
tmp_table_size retains to (give a hint about a) limit of the on-disk temporary table size. The limit imposed upon  the disk-based temporary tables is still quite relative due to MyISAM current implementation restrictions.&quot;

So I understand this buf was fixed to 5.X and tmp_table_size is now deprecated, isn&#039;t it?

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, excuse me for ask before find it better. I read this on MySQL,</p>
<p>&#8220;ChangeSet@stripped, 2007-01-03 14:45:26+03:00, ted@stripped +7 -0<br />
BUG #4291: max_heap_table_size affects creation of disk-based temporary table</p>
<p>fix: the new system variable memory_tmp_table_size is introduced; it stands now for the exact purpose the Manual says tmp_table_size used to do. </p>
<p>tmp_table_size retains to (give a hint about a) limit of the on-disk temporary table size. The limit imposed upon  the disk-based temporary tables is still quite relative due to MyISAM current implementation restrictions.&#8221;</p>
<p>So I understand this buf was fixed to 5.X and tmp_table_size is now deprecated, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Rubén Ortiz</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2007/01/19/tmp_table_size-and-max_heap_table_size/comment-page-1/#comment-459923</link>
		<dc:creator>Rubén Ortiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again

last comment was on 2007. Do you know if bug is fixed now? Peter says that &quot;I constantly see temporary tables sized in gigabytes&quot;. Could you be so kind to explain to us how you see it?

Thanks!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again</p>
<p>last comment was on 2007. Do you know if bug is fixed now? Peter says that &#8220;I constantly see temporary tables sized in gigabytes&#8221;. Could you be so kind to explain to us how you see it?</p>
<p>Thanks!!</p>
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		<title>By: rajeesh</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2007/01/19/tmp_table_size-and-max_heap_table_size/comment-page-1/#comment-193871</link>
		<dc:creator>rajeesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tmp_table_size=45M , if its increse or decrese what will the effect of mysql database</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tmp_table_size=45M , if its increse or decrese what will the effect of mysql database</p>
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		<title>By: Hjalmars it-blogg &#187; MySQL-tweaking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hjalmars it-blogg &#187; MySQL-tweaking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2007/01/19/tmp_table_size-and-max_heap_table_size/comment-page-1/#comment-35418</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you James,

I see it got added there. As MySQL old timer I did not get back to that page for other than new variables as I remember meaning about them. 

The quote I gave was from this url:

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/memory-storage-engine.html

I guess I would expect working do be different in this place to.

It is probably hard to keep such large document synchronized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you James,</p>
<p>I see it got added there. As MySQL old timer I did not get back to that page for other than new variables as I remember meaning about them. </p>
<p>The quote I gave was from this url:</p>
<p><a href="http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/memory-storage-engine.html" rel="nofollow">http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/memory-storage-engine.html</a></p>
<p>I guess I would expect working do be different in this place to.</p>
<p>It is probably hard to keep such large document synchronized.</p>
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		<title>By: James Holt</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Holt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, reading this I thought I recalled reading about it in the docs somewhere.  
I looked around and found it here: 

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/server-system-variables.html
(scroll down to tmp_table_size)

Not defending the behavior by any stretch; it is highly anti-intuitive.

-James Holt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, reading this I thought I recalled reading about it in the docs somewhere.<br />
I looked around and found it here: </p>
<p><a href="http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/server-system-variables.html" rel="nofollow">http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/server-system-variables.html</a><br />
(scroll down to tmp_table_size)</p>
<p>Not defending the behavior by any stretch; it is highly anti-intuitive.</p>
<p>-James Holt</p>
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		<title>By: James Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, thanks for mentioning this. I expect that the plan will be changed now Sergei knows that it would break backwards compatibility. A new synonym for tmp_table_size that is the memory limit and a new variable for disk size would do the job without breaking existing setups. Then tmp_table_size can be deprecated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, thanks for mentioning this. I expect that the plan will be changed now Sergei knows that it would break backwards compatibility. A new synonym for tmp_table_size that is the memory limit and a new variable for disk size would do the job without breaking existing setups. Then tmp_table_size can be deprecated.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2007/01/19/tmp_table_size-and-max_heap_table_size/comment-page-1/#comment-34308</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for looking into in Sergei

While fixing bug I just would make sure there are limited behavior changes compared to old timers expectations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for looking into in Sergei</p>
<p>While fixing bug I just would make sure there are limited behavior changes compared to old timers expectations.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergei Golubchik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergei Golubchik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw that in the code. But now, after testing, I see that, indeed, tmp_table_size doesn&#039;t limit the size of on-disk tables (table-&gt;s-&gt;max_rows is set to limit it, but it&#039;s not copied to ci-&gt;max_rows for mi_create to see it) - it must be a bug too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that in the code. But now, after testing, I see that, indeed, tmp_table_size doesn&#8217;t limit the size of on-disk tables (table-&gt;s-&gt;max_rows is set to limit it, but it&#8217;s not copied to ci-&gt;max_rows for mi_create to see it) &#8211; it must be a bug too.</p>
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