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	<title>Comments on: NILFS &#8211; may be not yet</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin Burton</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2009/08/08/nilfs-may-be-not-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-629125</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to remember some caveats about the cleaner in NILFS.... like it wasn&#039;t written yet or isn&#039;t always scheduled.

There are some &#039;hacks&#039; like this but I&#039;m really just convinced that we need to start designing databases from the ground up to think like flash.

InnoDB is designed to think like HDDs.

If you want to get the full performance you need to think like flash.  And I don&#039;t mean SSD.  I mean flash.

Even FusionIO is too high level I think...

There are just too many levels of indirection here now and I think they jut need to be removed.

Of course, I don&#039;t have the time to write the system so I suspect it will take a few more years ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to remember some caveats about the cleaner in NILFS&#8230;. like it wasn&#8217;t written yet or isn&#8217;t always scheduled.</p>
<p>There are some &#8216;hacks&#8217; like this but I&#8217;m really just convinced that we need to start designing databases from the ground up to think like flash.</p>
<p>InnoDB is designed to think like HDDs.</p>
<p>If you want to get the full performance you need to think like flash.  And I don&#8217;t mean SSD.  I mean flash.</p>
<p>Even FusionIO is too high level I think&#8230;</p>
<p>There are just too many levels of indirection here now and I think they jut need to be removed.</p>
<p>Of course, I don&#8217;t have the time to write the system so I suspect it will take a few more years <img src='http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Maxim</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2009/08/08/nilfs-may-be-not-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-627662</link>
		<dc:creator>Maxim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah... Sorry, Vadim, sloppy me. Your result is an interesting one but kinda expected given the state of affairs with NILFS. I was wondering if you&#039;ve done similar benchmarks with ext4, xfs. And whether the particular ssd brand is more &quot;mysql/innodb friendly&quot; given that each manufacturer implements own algorithms of ssd memory management.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230; Sorry, Vadim, sloppy me. Your result is an interesting one but kinda expected given the state of affairs with NILFS. I was wondering if you&#8217;ve done similar benchmarks with ext4, xfs. And whether the particular ssd brand is more &#8220;mysql/innodb friendly&#8221; given that each manufacturer implements own algorithms of ssd memory management.</p>
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		<title>By: Vadim</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2009/08/08/nilfs-may-be-not-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-627623</link>
		<dc:creator>Vadim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maxim

I mentioned that in post - Intel X25-E 32GB</description>
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<p>I mentioned that in post &#8211; Intel X25-E 32GB</p>
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		<title>By: Maxim</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2009/08/08/nilfs-may-be-not-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-627597</link>
		<dc:creator>Maxim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vadim, What SSDs (brand, type, etc.) and RAID type did you use for your tests?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vadim, What SSDs (brand, type, etc.) and RAID type did you use for your tests?</p>
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		<title>By: Ufaria</title>
		<link>http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2009/08/08/nilfs-may-be-not-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-627459</link>
		<dc:creator>Ufaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, i have a fusion-io card to make tests. is nilfs is not ready to use.. what fs is ready to use with ssd ?</description>
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